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Daddyhunt CEO Featured in the Huffington Post
Our excitement for the MISTER app just keeps growing with every passing download and we just want to shout it from the rooftops. Or in this case, the Huffington Post. Check out this great article Daddyhunt CEO and MISTER founder, Carl Sandler wrote on the current state of things in the mobile dating arena. He discusses the rampant ageism and disrespect that currently fuels so many apps and explains why the MISTER app was created to circumvent that kind of behavior.
He makes some really good points, many of which you'll no doubt have some thoughts on. So go ahead and start the convo in the comments below.
Comments
Submitted by youthfulguy on Tue, 2012-05-29 19:41
There is a place in the questionnaire to let people know the ages of guys you want to meet. Fill it out, and fewer older guys will hit on you. But remember this site was created for older guys to feel comfortable. If it's not for you, there are other sites that are.
Submitted by OfficialD ... on Wed, 2012-05-30 13:56
Hey. We want this site to be for adult men of all ages. A big part of that is treating other members with respect. If someone is berating you, please notify support@daddyhunt.com. We want to know about it.
Submitted by Denver Bob on Fri, 2012-06-01 18:25
It's called DaddyHunt. So isn't it logical to figure any boys on here are looking for a daddy? Not exactly the place for twinks to look for other twinks.
Submitted by suckfuck on Sat, 2012-06-02 07:17
"berated", really? Sounds a little harsh; and not representative of the kind of interactions I have had on the site at all. Lots of guys are just happy to chat, and almost all of 'em politely take 'no thank-you' for an answer, if it is politely given. if someone hits on you and you politely say, "sorry not interested" I find it hard to believe there would be any "berating" going on. I wonder what expectations you may be bringing with you, and if they are realistic.
Submitted by rakopu on Sat, 2012-06-02 07:36
most of the contacts i've made on this site have been respectful, chatty and good humoured. when i've responded that location or age would be a barrier to ongoing chat (i make it clear that if we are never likely to meet i'd rather not chatter on :-) this has been well received. and when i contacted the guys who run the site about a concern this was promptly replied to. well done!
Submitted by HOTGUY4GUY on Mon, 2012-06-04 01:40
funny..but that happens to me in reverse buddy...and im not really lookin for young guys..just a great fellow daddy........so..its all good......stay upbeat and go from there.
Submitted by Vivido on Tue, 2012-05-29 19:44
It's great that there are apps and spaces for guys over 40. And I love the fact that many of these immature young guys will be over 40 one day and still lonely because they don't have manners and they don't know how to connect with other people. They deserve what they get and I hope life is very miserable for them once they reach that point, so they will realize too late how mean they have been to those who came before them and gave them the freedom they enjoy know and don't value appropriately.
Submitted by charlieharris (not verified) on Tue, 2012-05-29 20:12.
just goes to show how much self hate there is among the older generation. why would any wish loneliness and despair on others, unless that is all they have to offer. another very sad posting from a lonely old guy that probably only looks for younger guys to help with the pain.
Submitted by mcbrion on Tue, 2012-05-29 22:27
One of the most telling things about anyone's state of heart is how kind they are to others. The more frequently the word "troll," "queen," or other unflattering words fall from someone's lips, the more quickly it becomes apparent that this is not someone capable of genuine love. Happy people are not, generally speaking, bitchy, sarcastic or mean. Just BEING the kind of person who slings these words around like catapults says everything about what one's childhood was like (pretty unhappy) and that you've not transcended those wounds. One thing about age is that, as a wag put it, "Growing older is inevitable: growing UP is optional." There are far, far, FAR too many men who have great jobs, homes and even friends -- and are still, inside, 8 years old and scared of connection, but terrified of rejection. Age neither blesses one with wisdom and insight, nor cripples one with angst and anger. That's an individual choice, and while I understand what the founder envisions, he must also remember that age doesn't mean "nice" or "understanding" or even "respectful." Quite the contrary: the older men get without having an inkling of what love is (something you GIVE, not something you try to GET), the more depressed (or, conversely, anger, if they're inclined not to be introspective and turn it outwards toward the world) they become.
I find it ironic that an "app," a computer code in its purest form, can bring us closer together, instead of doing it the old way: actually talking to someone and putting one's insecurities behind oneself (after all, fear destroys Love faster than almost any other emotion). Of course, if no one is "nearby," one doesn't have the CHANCE to talk. If, though, the app serves its purpose, then Godspeed.
Submitted by healthyfit on Tue, 2012-05-29 23:32
If we're talking about this site and profiles and attitudes... one thing has always puzzled me.
Has anyone in the world ever found a SCOLDING TONE to be at all sexy or attactive? I can't think of anything less so. Yet I see it in some profiles here and elsewhere.
At best it calls to mind a shrewish Sunday school teacher.
If anyone has ever met anyone who ever met anyone who finds this attractive, can you explain its allure? It seems to be the least sexy and attractive thing in the world.
In general, though, I think this is a very good natured site!
Submitted by ShyPup4LTR (not verified) on Wed, 2012-05-30 06:30.
Shouting the news about all this from the rooftops is not always a good idea outside of ones social marketplace environment just like probably wouldn't want a parade going through someones neighborhood where the theme of the parade was not to the liking of the particular neighborhoods sensibilities which can lead to drama on certain media channels that is better left alone so that some sleeping giant doesn't wake up and make certain social avenues a little bit less easy over time due to sensationalism and so forth. Their are plenty of channels and papers that is better to not be advertised in so as to be socially correct to the general masses for sure.
Gay pride parades also lend themselves to the rights of other groups of controversial natures to do the same thing and then maybe that's too much drama eventually and is better to blend in a little better which is the idea behind returning to the macho style of blending into the crowd in the first place.
Submitted by BJHeaven on Sat, 2012-06-02 04:23
The purpose of gay pride parades and events is to help younger and questioning gay men to feel they are not alone. It works spectacularly. Let 'em take digital photos. As for older gay men, celebrate equally. You are alive. Bullying is being aggressively addressed; we survived it, hopefully. Have a taco and a beer and "Be Thankful For What You Got" (William DeVaughn)>>Thank God its not as hard for these kids as for us, unless they R from Utah, Misssouri, Tennessee, and such other states stuck in the 1950s..the world is changing...you can't stop it, it's inevitable and called progress. Including marriage rights, in less than a decade. ain't it grand? (:
Submitted by HairyDadd ... on Tue, 2012-06-05 00:30
We just celebrated Pride here in Utah and we had a huge turnout, a ton of straight allies, and over 350 active mormon straight people who defied their church and marched in our parade in solidarity with us. It was a pretty amazing weekend, the culmination of the Utah Pride Center's tireless work.
Utah has its problems but we're not stuck in the 50s. We have a very vibrant and politically active gay community here. And Salt Lake has a domestic partner registry, and employment and housing non-discrimination ordinances on the books (along with about 10 other Utah cities, and counting...). We've got a long way to go but by living here and working hard we are making significant progress. And you can't beat the scenery here.
I'm proud to be an out gay man and proud of the work being done here in the Beehive State (lol!) despite the at times intense opposition. Kids are coming out here in high school and junior high, and there are gay-straight alliances in the schools. It's not as backward as people like to think. Just sayin'! :)
Submitted by buzz50 on Wed, 2012-05-30 09:04
Guys have preferences....young/old, hairy/smooth, top/bottom...and all those are ok. What's not is when those preferences become absolutes...not only to the individual but also for dismissing others simply because they don't agree/fit your preferences. Just because I might not want to date, or even have sex with, an 18 y/o boy, that doesn't give me the right to deride him as immature or inexperienced. Your preferences are yours; they are not an objective basis to evaluate other men. I guess that's a distinction "mature" (as opposed to older) men appreciate.
Submitted by A1Houseboy on Wed, 2012-05-30 09:24
The site is "Daddyhunt" not "Old" hunt "Young" and vice versus. Does the term Daddy and Hunter denote only chronological being rather than also state of mind? Anyone using explanations to convince others that their line of thinking may cvhange once they have reached that stage to which negative connotations are used to describe really is preaching to the choir as those that believe one way are probably not aproachable about changing their views. Even when those that reach the age to which the negative connotation is referred will retain the spirit of their earlier state of mind but also build upon it increased negative connotations that presents itself in not being appealing to others regardless of age.
Do I wish it were not so? Most definitely. Will it change? Well, homosexual activity is mentioned in the bible yet there seems to be the re-emergence of this line of thought through the centuries. Some villages are missing their idiots and can do without them and yet those villges that are over burdoned by an excess and not only do they stick around but they grow older and many times get into situations that influence the thought and actions of others. There are a whole lot more publications and pics and vids of post jail bait than mature gentlemen. Mind you i did not say muscle bound as the shape of a 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, 80 90 year old can come in a variety of appealing packages.
Submitted by GDCMoney on Wed, 2012-05-30 14:12
There is nothing more satisfying that a matured man who doesn't taste like candy in a kiss or is not concerned about messing up his hair in the heat of passion. Who wants a fumbling neophyte when you can have a "been there, not fumbling with that" kind of guy? There is room for everyone, but this site is for "US". Don't get me wrong, some of our youth are mature but for the most part life lessons aren't there to lean on when something gets in your "eye" candy. VIAGRA!!! Best thing that ever happened. I'd take a guy on the pill any day!
If you don't feel bad about your age then who cares what anybody else thinks. I knew when I was a young guy that older was the way for me. I got to skip all the pubescent up tightness and anxiety because of their wisdom.
Does this make sense?
Submitted by BJHeaven on Wed, 2012-05-30 14:50
I love this site, but as for casting my net into the sea, I am bewildered by the results. I understand there are many men here only seeking younger men, and that some are frustrated as they do not get the frisky hunters they are seeking. My problem is quite the opposite: I get many responses from men so young they could be my nephews or grandsons, and rarely a response from a hot daddy! Maybe I need to grow a beard. I don't mind hearing from these young men at all, but am seeking more seasoned "fish." Also, there is a slight problem with communications. The young guys tend to communicate in a style so economical I am at a loss as to how to respond. Examples of this include: "Hmmm."; "Yo!"; "What's up?" I don't require an autobiography in an initial greeting, but I can barely discern a personality (especially without a photo) in such threadbare responses. I am looking for a certain low key intelligence coupled with humor; the greeting "Whassup" fails to capture my imagination. Time to re-tool my profile I guess. (:
Submitted by dadneeds1son on Fri, 2012-10-12 15:30
Are these guys really younger or are they just claiming to be? With the way Silverdaddies, Bearfront, seeks older and manhunt have become "scammer's havens the scammers have been trying to immigrate here as well. We all need to take note: If profiles sound or look too good to be real, they most likely are. Pictures of a super hot dude; profiles claiming to be in Accra, GA.. Accra U.S. or [filtered country] U.S., profiles that just don't sound right or the picture doesn't match the description should send up a red flag. If they claim to be busy & not here often but want to chat on yahoo, another red flag went up. Daddyhunt is doing almost everything possible to stop the scams but if you see a "red flag" USE YOUR REPORT BUTTON & TELL SUPPORT!
Submitted by TXYur on Thu, 2012-05-31 11:26
In response to harrysmith's lament that this site is just older guys trolling for young twinks, I'd like to refute that. I'm an older guy who likes older guys, i.e., guys near my own age. When I was a twink, I had my share of "60 year old" men hitting on me, too. If I wasn't interested, I was polite in my refusal because these "60 year old" men were humans with feelings and deserved respect. If, however, they became excessively insistent and pushy, I was rude enough for them to understand I REALLY wasn't interested. This also held true - especially - for guys my own age, since I found most twenty-somethings to be immature nitwits convinced that the world revolved around them and whose most pressing concern was being "fabulous".
"harrysmith", try putting more information in your profile concerning your likes and dislikes, and state explicitly you're seeking other vapid airheads near your age. You'll have fewer "60 year old" men hitting on you - at least the ones who take the time to read your profile. Keep in mind that this site was created for older men and if you don't want them hitting on you at all, delete your profile and move on to another site.
Submitted by BoyWonder22 on Fri, 2012-06-01 05:18
I can't be the only one in awe and totally distracted by that very hot pic. Hello there, Mr. Sandler.
Submitted by SwimmerDad on Sat, 2012-08-11 21:03
Same here. If I had only known then I would have been much nicer and flirty in my messages to support@daddyhunt.com
Hello Carl!
I think we're both in NYC. Yes? :-)
Submitted by beefydadnyc on Fri, 2012-06-01 08:23
I love both these sites. Thank you. xo
Submitted by dadneeds1son on Fri, 2012-10-12 15:33
One of those "Red Flags" to report to support!
Submitted by FtLFurLover on Fri, 2012-06-01 21:15
Wow! This has been something to read. I am an honest 65, and even though I have stated in my profile that I prefer MY younger men to be 40+, I find a lot of people simply do not READ the profiles. They are very photo oriented, and that is ALL, apparently. I mean I am a TOTAL top (with reciprocal oral skills and massage and plenty, I hope, of other erotic skills so that I don't HAVE to bottom to please a man) and I admit that I get a bit angry when another top puts heavy moves on me. And I really do not care for an argument from ANYONE, whether I reject them for age, distance, sexual incompatibility, or simple lack of chemistry. "I don't think we are a very good match" does not mean I want a rebuttal. My mind is made up. I reject people for not having communication skills, too. And after all of that, you might not think I have any left to accept and encourage. AU CONTRAIRE! I always begin tactfully, I think, and I wish them the best of luck in their search, but I explain that I have my preferences, and I just don't think we're a strong match. It's the same way whether you're in a bar or a bathhouse or whereever! Almost all of us are hit on by someone we did NOT encourage from time to time. We ALL know that experiencing rejection is not easy, but when a person takes the time to be tactful and sugar-coat it, PLEASE do not become argumentative. People who persist after being told NO nicely deserve what they get, which is rudeness back.
Once before I took a long leave of absence from ALL online activity, simply because I realized how much TIME I was taking trying to be nice to everyone who had nothing more to say than to send me a GROPE. These sites can be VERY time-consuming. We all know that. And even when there IS a mutual interest, so often it ends up talk, talk, talk. But that's OK SOMETIMES, too. Some of my best exchanges have been from people far away who compliment me, but we are never likely to meet due to the distance. I think that's flattering, even if the person is 18, under-educated, hardly writes English, and is in every other way NOT what I am looking for. Give them credit for having good taste in men! ;-)
My MAIN compaint is that I wish everyone would fill out their profile and let the world know not only what they offer, but what they are looking for. And then I wish people would take the time to READ the profiles and NOT respond just because they like the photo. You can tell if you think you stand a chance. But obviously there are people online who believe that as in hockey, the person who scores the most points is also likely to be the one who takes the most SHOTS ON GOAL. I have already determined that there are just some clueless people in this world and others who are simply not very bright. They SHOULD get it without being told, but they don't.
Fisherman often have to throw some of what they catch BACK and hope that it gets bigger and better before someone else catches it. Rest assured I am NOT one of the older men who is constantly hitting on the youngsters. But still it galls me when it is pretty apparent what type of man I like, but people IGNORE all the signs and the clues. I think they DESERVE, at least somewhat, to be treated rudely.
Submitted by Rubbadubb on Fri, 2012-06-01 22:45
FtLFurLover, you hit the nail on the head: not only if guys would fill out their profiles with substance, rather than one-liners, regarding their likes and dis-likes, as well as what kindS (plural) of guys (again, plural) they are looking for...and then, oh my heavens if folks would actually READ those profiles....imagine how much more effective hunting there would be on here!
Awhile back I logged a suggestion to Support@ to create, perhaps for subscribers as an added benefit, an OPTIONAL "filtering" mechanism to preclude folks who fall outside a criteria I choose...whether it be geographic, age, physical attributes or whatever...from cluttering up my inbox. DH has the data fields in our profiles already, why not let them perform more than just a search functionality? Like many of the great guys I consider friends on here, I've tried to be very clear about my preferences in my profile statement about what my "likes" are, and I would welcome the opportunity to screen out the nimrods who don't come anywhere close and still proceed to fill up my inbox. 35-60 hairy does not equal 18 year olds from Malyasia.
If anyone else out there thinks that this might be a good addition, especially for those of us who PAY to support the site, please pass along your suggestions to Support@ . They are an awesome group of developers and listen to those of us who speak up. Love this site...let's make it even better!
Submitted by SwimmerDad on Sat, 2012-08-11 20:58
There is a huge difference in the profiles of DaddyHunt members and Mister members. You may have noticed. There are far fewer questions in the Mister profiles because of limitations caused by a 3-1/2" screen. I have found this very frustrating because a lot of the information that I look for in a profile (e.g. Appearance, Sexual Details, Personal Information) are not in Mister profiles. They tend to be very short except for the option to fill in the details in the About Me section (which most of them don't bother to do). So as things stand now the kind of filtering mechanism that you propose would be very limited (to details in the Look For and Profile Basics sections). :-(
So if you want to screen out messages from guys shorter than 4'2" or taller than 7'0" or who give their race as Martian they won't be able to do that for the Mister members, only for the DaddyHunt members.
Submitted by gerard on Mon, 2012-07-23 05:58
I love the site and I love the app! How could you not? As long as I live, I doubt I'll ever be able to just brush off the casual disrespect that is continually soup thick in its presence on certain yellow gay 'dating' apps. It generally doesn't happen on here.
However, even on here, there is too much of this insecure and self loathing obsession with being seen to be 'straight acting' and 'masculine'. This disappoints me still. The true measure of a person's integrity and character credentials, are not to be found in a person's mannerisms or style of dress. This problem deserves a blog all of it's own! (It may already exist and I've just missed it...)
Keep up the good work DH/Mister! :-)
Submitted by dnatested (not verified) on Fri, 2012-09-14 21:00.
Just reading through these comments give me encouragement that a lot of really lucid guys are keyed into this Link. I don't especially see that in the Profiles which are usually missing many of the details and hardly any narrative about who is submitting the profile. Sure would be great to read a little about the submitter and what he is thinking and what track he is on. Well, actually something like these very comments; thanks!
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Isnt this site just becoming a breeding ground for old guys that want really young boys. I can't be on line for more than 5 minutes without being berated by some 60 year old that wants boys under 25 only.